thread Stopped because I needed to shove something through a letter box.
I had got out of the van and closed the door when I heard the first collision (black car hitting the white one), I then turned and saw the white car hit our van.

permalink Now I understand.
Not much to be said - if you drive into the back of a car which safely stopped behind another stopped car then you are 100% culpable.
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this makes sense